New Orleans, LA, is known for many things: Mardi Gras, world-class Cajun and Creole cuisine, distinctive architecture, Bourbon Street, and jazz music, to name a few. Roughly 18.5 million people visit the city every year to indulge in all the exciting things it has to offer.
It can be challenging to find the right therapist. Those in individual practices may have few appointments available, and the cost can be prohibitive, whether you have insurance or not. With an online platform like BetterHelp, you can access mental health services on your schedule from the comfort of home. BetterHelp subscriptions are between $65 to $90 per week (billed every four weeks), which may be more affordable than in-person treatment.
Whether you prefer a licensed professional counselor LPC, clinical social worker, or other mental health professional, you and your therapist can work through a range of challenges together. Reach out to a New Orleans-based counselor if you need trauma informed treatment to deal with eating disorders or family conflict, support with learning how to manage stress or perform self care, or anything in between. When you communicate openly and commit to the collaborative process, you can work with your therapist for a more fulfilling life.
Beverly Hulbin
I am so very glad to see you have thought about receiving help to be the best you can be! We all have room for improvement, and you recognize having positive support can help. I am dedicated to help others navigate obstacles, develop holistically, and accomplish goals. My counseling style is compassionate and interactive. My training, experience, and life has prepared me to work with a wide range of concerns. I am very much person- centered serving with respect and sensitivity, utilizing varied therapeutic approaches. I believe it is important for me to work with you in developing a personal treatment plan necessary for your needs. You are capable of accomplishing goals and living a fulfilling, meaningful life. I am ready to assist you in accomplishing just that!
Annetta Starr
Welcome! My name is Annetta Starr. I have a Masters of Science in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from University of Louisiana at Monroe. I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in Louisiana. I have worked in the counseling field since 2015 helping clients find success with managing their needs. Some clients need help with anxiety and others need help with addictions. We all have needs. I believe that we each have a responsibility to ourselves to make sure that our basic needs are met, because when we do, we find ourselves functioning at our best and living more fully. My counseling approach is more humanistic/client centered, as I believe that we as individuals already possess the qualities that we need to live fully. I encourage and utilize curiosity, intuition, creativity, humility, and empathy in individualized therapy sessions to help clients close the gap between where they are right now and where they want to be in the future. If you choose to make a commitment to work on meeting your needs, I will commit myself to helping you. I will not give up on you. Taking personal responsibility for ourselves is the first indication that clients have the strength and control to make any changes necessary to live life with fullness. Let’s work together to evaluate what you are doing, thinking, and feeling, and develop plans to help you make choices that will help you meet your needs and have success at getting what you want.
Pamella Divinity
Hello and welcome! I want to applaud you for initiating the process of therapy to assist you in addressing your most pressing concerns at this time. Life is full of challenges and we all need someone to come along side and help us during those times of challenge. My name is Pamella B. Divinity and I am a LPC. I earned a Master of Counselor Education degree with a focus in Marriage, Couples and Family Counseling in July 2015. I realized early in my life that people were naturally drawn to me—family, friends, and strangers alike entrusted me with their most sacred personal dilemmas because they felt comfortable and safe. I attribute this to possessing a genuine heart to help others. Interestingly, it never crossed my mind to consider counseling as a career choice and thereby took a different path. In April of 2011, I found myself at a ‘crossroads’ and needed to make a decision about what was next. During that process, I realized that my desire to help empower others would inspire me to return to school. It was at this time I realized that being in the helping profession was not just something I was considering as a career choice, it was part of my “calling.” For nearly 10 years, I have worked in a variety of settings with specialized groups which included college students, women (18 and above), youth (11-17), but have also worked with various populations experiencing various mental health challenges such as depression, anxiety, grief and loss, family/relationship issues, anger management, stress management, and trauma. Additionally, I have counseled from a ministry perspective for over twenty-seven years and am able to integrate both the spiritual and clinical aspect of counseling when desired by the client. As a therapist, I employ an eclectic therapy approach to ensure interventions are tailored to each client’s needs. I possess a desire to help individuals and families be strengthened and empowered to navigate life’s challenges successfully, ultimately emerging to be their best selves. I believe that the therapist-client relationship should focus on learning the "root cause" of present and past issues, empower clients with necessary knowledge and encourage consistent implementation so that "transformation" is realized. I am dedicated to assisting my clients to achieve their maximum level of independent functioning throughout the therapeutic experience. In order to achieve this I believe two vital elements are essential-- first, the establishment of a strong therapist-client relationship that is based on trust, safety, and transparency. Secondly, I believe the client must possess a desire and motivation for change. To that end, I would count it an honor and a privilege to partner with you!
Robin Greenwood
Hello I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Louisiana and I have 15 years of professional experience. I have worked with many issues including depression, anxiety, life transition, grief and loss, trauma, and personal identity issues to name some. I take a wholistic approach that is client-centered and humanistic. I combine this with action oriented techniques to help my clients meet their goals. My goal is to create a safe, non-judgmental environment that is conducive to you doing the important work of dealing with your most personal and challenging issues. I am excited to work with you as you manage your personal journey!
Sheila SEALS
Greetings! I am a native New Orleanian, whose studies and career have taken me to New York, California, FL, and Texas before returning home. As a result of the travel, I have had a variety of experiences in a variety of settings, including community mental health center, non-profits and schools. I received my Master's in Social Work/Direct Services from Tulane University. As a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and Board Approved Clinical Supervisor, I have worked with individuals and groups, families, adults and children. Much of my focus, has been on issues including: stress and anxiety management; anger management and self-esteem development. In addition, I have extensive, specialized training in parenting issues, grief and loss , substance addictions, disaster recovery, aging, custody issues and healthy communications within relationships. My clinical orientations combine client-centered, solutions-focused, individualized therapy, resulting from active compassionate listening. I believe in engaging clients in a caring, respectful manner. SPECIALTIES *Grief and Loss *Abuse *Stress and Anxiety Management *Anger Management *Social Emotional Learning CLINICAL APPROACHES Strengths-Focused Therapy Client-Centered Therapy Solutions-Focused Therapy Mindfulness Therapy Cognitive Behavioral Therapy YEARS OF EXPERIENCE 39+ LICENSING Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Board Approved Clinical Supervisor(LCSW-BACS) #2555 Louisiana
Latasha Hicks
I am licensed in Louisiana with over 18 years of professional work experience. I have specialized training with behavior therapy and trauma of all types (including domestic violence and sexual abuse). Finally, I have been trained in a number of therapeutic modalities, that treat mood disorders, anxiety, stress, relationship issues, and coping with grief and loss. I believe in providing goal-directed treatment. This means that a goal or several goals are established after a thorough assessment. All treatment is then planned with the goal in mind and progress is made toward the goal in a time-efficient manner. I take a collaborative and supportive stance in my approach to therapy and my clients have told me that I am easy to talk to. I believe in treating everyone with respect, sensitivity, and compassion. I will tailor our dialog and treatment plan to meet your unique and specific needs. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy can take courage and I am proud of you for getting started!
Orlise Aubrey
Hello, My name is Orlise H. Aubrey, LCSW-BACS, I am licensed in Louisiana with 30+ years of professional work experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, motivation, self esteem, and confidence, bipolar disorder, & depression. I am an excellent listener! I can help you to quickly gain insight into life crisis and issues of the heart. I work with my clients to create an open and safe environment where thoughts and feelings can be shared without fear of judgment. Together we can get you to your better place, your happier place, and a place of contentment. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy can take courage and I am proud of you for getting started! Let's get you to a better place! You are worth this investment of time into yourself.
Anastasia Arceneaux
Hi and thank you for visiting my page! It takes courage to seek a happier, more fulfilling life and to take the first steps to change. My name is Anastasia Porche Arceneaux and I am Licensed Professional Counselor in Louisiana. I have a Master's in Psychological Counseling and a Specialist in School Psychology. I have experience with working with children, adolescents, and adults in various mental health settings. I have multiple certifications in the behavioral health field. I have helped many clients work through stress, anxiety, trauma and abuse, self-injurious behaviors, parenting issues, relational/family issues, and depression. With 14 years of experience in the counseling field, I cherish the feeling of ensuring my clients are "in good hands" through our therapeutic relationship. It is extremely important to me that you feel understood and heard in our therapeutic relationship. I believe everyone needs someone to talk too. I take a non-judgemental approach to developing and maintaining a therapeutic relationship with my client. I believe that you are the expert of your story and that you have many strengths that will assist you in overcoming things that challenge you. It takes courage to seek out a more fulfilling and happier life and to take the first steps towards a change. I am here to support and empower you in that journey. My approach combines cognitive-behavioral, client-centered, trauma-informed, and motivational interviewing. I will "meet you where you are at" in your journey to "being a better version of you." If you are ready to take the next step, I am here to support and empower you. I look forward to working with you soon!
Stephanie Bradley
I am licensed in Louisiana with 7 years of professional work experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, coping with grief and loss, anger management, & motivation, self esteem, and confidence. I believe in treating everyone with respect, sensitivity, and compassion. I will tailor our dialog and treatment plan to meet your unique and specific needs. It takes courage to seek out a more fulfilling and happier life and to take the first steps towards a change. I am here to support & empower you in that journey.
Sharolyn Henderson
I am licensed in Louisiana with 20 years of professional work experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, parenting issues, anger management, & motivation, self esteem, and confidence. I believe that you are the expert of your story and that you have many strengths that will assist you in overcoming things that challenge you. Taking the first step to seeking a more fulfilling and happier life takes courage. I am here to support you in that process.
How to find a therapist for counseling in New Orleans
Finding the best therapist close by in New Orleans can feel challenging, but know that once you narrow your search for a counselor serving your area, you can find a therapist in your city that is accepting new clients and fits your goals. Whether you're struggling with depression, anxiety, marriage, family issues, or other emotional challenges, feel proud that you have begun your search to find the mental health care services with therapists in New Orleans that work best for you in order to begin your personal journey towards emotional healing with a therapist.
Understanding the type of therapy you'd like to search for is crucial before finding a therapist or psychologist in New Orleans. Perhaps you're interested in narrowing your search for a psychotherapist that can offer psychodynamic, cognitive-behavioral (CBT), talk therapy, provide group therapy, marriage and family therapy for individuals or couples, or couples therapy. Each type of support of this kind with BetterHelp therapists can offer various benefits and address or treat different disorders. If you're still unsure or are new to counseling in New Orleans, feel free to contact the provider via email to find out which methods they practice.
It is also important to understand that mental health professionals in the United States are accredited to provide care, helping individuals and couples, with a variety of licenses for therapists. These include licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT), licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), and clinical psychologist or doctor of psychology (PsyD). Regardless of their licensure, they are trained able to treat individuals and couples counseling, and sometimes children, in any type of therapy in the New Orleans region and in the state of Louisiana. Find a therapist under any of these distinctions and know that the sessions they offer can provide a safe place to heal.
A mental health counselor working through their own in-person therapy practice in New Orleans or online may assist clients in improving healthy relationships, communication skills, working through life transitions, couples counseling, managing a mood disorder, improving coping skills, self help tips, offer life coaching, family therapy, or change in negative thinking patterns. A New Orleans therapist may also provide a safe place and validation for clients experiencing emotional pain, or that simply want a psychological assessment. Verified providers and therapists can provide licensed marriage and couples therapy, tailor to individual needs, and create a therapeutic relationship as a National Certified Counselor.
There are all kinds of therapists working with clients today across the United States and in the greater New Orleans area offering:
- CBT
- DBT
- Substance use therapy
- Couples therapy
When you're ready to start your search keep in mind what support you'd like your provider to be most experienced with and choose an experienced provider with a practice located near you in the city of New Orleans, elsewhere in Orleans, or in the greater state of Louisiana. Get matched with one of the therapists working on the BetterHelp platform today.
Frequently asked questions (FAQs) about therapists and mental health services
Some other commonly asked questions on therapy with a licensed counselor and BetterHelp serving the New Orleans area can be found below:
How does the cost of in-person counseling with a therapist compare to the cost of BetterHelp with a licensed New Orleans therapist?
The average price of an in-person therapy session in the US with most therapists is $100 to $200 per hour. These prices may be higher in New Orleans due to a higher cost of living, and a limited number of therapists taking new clients. The price also depends on the type of provider you are looking for. See the following average prices for various mental health providers without insurance:
- Counseling with a psychiatrist: $150-$500
- Counseling with therapists: $100-300
- Therapy with a psychologist: $100
While many psychologists in New Orleans may not take health insurance, some in the state of Louisiana may work on a sliding scale, meaning they'll factor in your income and charge what you can afford per session. With a BetterHelp therapist throughout the state of Louisiana you can expect significantly more affordable options, with therapists sessions ranging from $65 to $100 per week (billed every four weeks).
How is a licensed therapist on this New Orleans online therapy platform verified?
Therapists in New Orleans, Louisiana working on BetterHelp are licensed, trained, experienced, and accredited as a doctor of psychology (PhD / PsyD), licensed marriage and family therapists (LMFT), licensed clinical social worker (LCSW / LICSW), or licensed professional counselors (LPC). All of these psychology clinicians have a Masters Degree or a Doctorate Degree in their field of psychology sciences, and follow the APA Code of Ethics. Therapists have been qualified and certified by their state's professional board after successfully completing the necessary education, exams, training and practice with a patient, and extensive experience in a healthcare clinic or treatment centers, in order to become a mental health provider. While their lived experience, expertise, careers, and background vary, therapists here all possess at least 3 years and 1,000 hours of hands-on experience with adult and sometimes teen patients, and have the necessary therapist credentials to provide a safe space for long lasting emotional healing in therapy.
Please note BetterHelp does not offer or provide care from New Orleans psychiatrists to prescribe a drug or medication as treatment, or perform psychological assessments and other psychiatric services.
How does working with a professional counselor in BetterHelp online therapy sessions work?
BetterHelp clinicians and therapists treat clients online across the United States (individuals and couples) through life transitions, inner child exploration, long term depression or anxiety, post traumatic stress disorder, and more. An online mental health professional, including the therapists in New Orleans above, can work with young adults, children, adolescents, and adults virtually as an accredited licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) or licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT). You do not have to commute to a an office as a psychotherapy client.
Through BetterHelp therapy, you can partake in video, phone, or live chat therapy sessions with your licensed therapist. You can work through various symptoms, use the in app journaling feature, and receive worksheets. You'll also find support groups or group therapy helping individuals on topics including managing life transitions, symptoms affecting sexual health, behavioral health, coping skills for anxiety, depression, trauma, stress, marriage counseling, and more. Get matched today.
What mental health issues can psychotherapy address with the help of psychologists?
BetterHelp's verified therapists specialize and have clinical experience in a wide range of mental health issues and modalities, helping clients to feel better and improve their lives every day. See below for examples.
Our therapists specialties on BetterHelp include:
- Cognitive behavioral therapy - This is provided by professional counselors, helping clients identify and change negative thought patterns through structured sessions.
- Behavior therapy - Behavior therapy techniques are used to help clients modify harmful behaviors and develop healthier habits, often through the guidance of a professional counselor.
- EMDR therapy - EMDR therapists assist clients in processing traumatic memories to alleviate emotional distress and improve overall well-being, utilizing the expertise of a professional counselor.
- Talk therapy - Clients explore their feelings and develop strategies for dealing with various mental health issues, often guided by a professional counselor.
- Depression - This counseling is designed to help individuals manage symptoms of depression and improve their mood and functioning, often working closely with a professional counselor.
- Anxiety disorders - Sessions for anxiety disorders, offer strategies to manage and reduce anxiety symptoms effectively, often through counseling sessions with a professional counselor.
- Stress - Tools and techniques to help clients cope with stress and improve their mental resilience, frequently under the supervision of a professional counselor.
- Eating disorders - Professionals experienced in eating disorders offer specialized counseling to address unhealthy eating patterns and body image issues, with the support of a professional counselor.
- Grief - Support and guidance are offered to clients experiencing grief, helping them navigate the stages of loss, often in collaboration with a counselor.
- Attachment therapy - Therapists use this to help clients understand and improve their emotional bonds and relationships, often with the assistance of a counselor.
- Relationships - Therapists work with clients to improve communication, resolve conflicts, and strengthen their connections with others, often using the skills of a counselor.
- Children, adolescents, and teens - Therapists specializing in youth therapy address the unique mental health needs of children, adolescents, and teens, often involving a counselor in the process.
- Addiction (substance abuse) - Therapists offer counseling for addiction, helping clients overcome substance abuse and maintain long-term recovery, often under the guidance of a counselor.
- Divorce - Therapists support individuals through the emotional and practical challenges of ending a marriage, often working with a psychologist to provide comprehensive care.
- Trauma or PTSD - Therapists specializing in trauma and PTSD help clients process traumatic experiences and reduce their symptoms, frequently collaborating with a psychologist.
- Bipolar disorder - Therapists provide counseling to manage the mood swings and challenges associated with bipolar disorder, often in consultation with a psychologist.
- Psychodynamic treatment - Therapists use psychodynamic treatment to explore unconscious processes and how they affect current behavior, often guided by psychologists.
- Career counseling - Therapists assist clients in making informed decisions about their professional paths and resolving work-related issues, often with the help of psychologists.
- Alcohol use disorders - Therapists offer specialized counseling to help clients manage and overcome alcohol use disorders, frequently under the supervision of psychologists.
- OCD - Therapists provide strategies and support to manage obsessive-compulsive disorder symptoms, often via psychotherapy.
- ADHD - Therapists offer counseling to help clients with ADHD improve focus, organization, and overall functioning, often via psychotherapy.
- Mood disorders - Therapists work with clients to stabilize and improve mood through various therapeutic approaches, frequently in psychotherapy.
- Sex addiction
- Complex trauma
- Life transitions
You may also be struggling with relationship problems that could be addressed in couples therapy or with a sex therapist. In that case, you may choose to work with one of BetterHelp's experienced cognitive-behavioral therapists or licensed marriage family therapists (LMFT) who work with clients in relationships. You can also try a New Orleans provider through BetterHelp's sister platform, ReGain, which is dedicated to couples and spouses worldwide with licensed therapists.
How do I know if online counseling is right for my family in New Orleans?
One of the potentially rewarding aspects of working with a New Orleans therapist is the validation and active listening they can provide. Your friends and loved ones may also be available to listen, but you may feel that they may lack the skills to provide objective guidance. Counselors and therapists are trained to respond to various concerns, symptoms, and mental health conditions.
Therapists in your city can support you toward a healthier emotional state, regardless of your mental health, life concerns, or healing needs. While supporting individuals in developing healthier habits, another good benefit of New Orleans therapy is having an understanding, safe space with a non-judgmental party who can support you through challenging experiences.
Many people have sensitive topics that they may feel ashamed to discuss with their friends or partner. A New Orleans therapist can help you confront these concerns and open up through unique methods of support. There are also many types of therapy, such as art therapy, where you may find you can express yourself through creativity instead of words with a psychotherapist.
With a lot of people in LA, therapists may be booked out with clients. Through the list of profiles or therapists above and others within BetterHelp's team, you may be able to find a psychologist within 24 to 48 hours. If you're searching to find a a nearby psychotherapist close to 70150 or the surrounding zip codes, consider others available through the BetterHelp site where you can schedule a session based on your and the therapist's schedule. No matter if you are seeking help from therapists in your area or beyond, online therapy can be a great option.
How should I prepare for my first therapy session with a New Orleans counselor?
Before seeing your New Orleans therapist, prep for your session by reading to understand the process. You might write a list of questions you want to ask your psychotherapist, any emotional pain you may feel, and the ways in which you hope to improve. When you attend your session, you can let our therapists know if you have any concerns or feel unsure about what to talk about. New Orleans therapists here may help guide you with open-ended therapeutic questions while offering mental health services. The first session will often serve as an intake to get to know you as a person and learn why you're attending therapy.
Should I find a therapist or psychologist for therapy if I feel fine?
Some simply don't feel the need to see a psychologist. However, some people may avoid attending therapy due to stigma or preconceived notions of what it might entail. Although psychologists often support people with mental health conditions, you do not need a diagnosis or specific condition. You can discuss grief, relationship concerns, stress, or life changes and ask for general feedback. A New Orleans licensed clinical social worker may help you gain power over your life and emotions while you navigate day-to-day experiences.
Gaining a new perspective on yourself through various therapies might allow you to improve your self-esteem, work through relationships, and gain a better sense of your mental health goals. The success you may find with a New Orleans counselor can be dependent on your process.
People may also attend therapy for specific motives, such as bullying, an autism diagnosis, a desire to learn mindfulness meditation, personality concerns, trouble with office workers, specific phobias, and many other principles that a counselor can help with.
Is mental health care and therapy with a therapist worth it?
Therapy with a licensed counselor is effective and has the power to change individuals' lives. Each client is at a different stage of their emotional healing journey in life, as each human can be unique in their personality, expression, skills, and goals. A psychologist can target various symptoms, experiences, and personalities to help you feel your best and put you on the path to healing. Unlike advice from a friend, family, or non-professional, a mental health therapist has an understanding of various disorders like ADHD and depression with many hours of experience in treating adults in their practice. For this reason, seeing an evidence based psychologist in New Orleans, Louisiana can be worth it. Over 41 million adults in the US attend therapy services each year, showing it's a popular option and is proven to be effective.
New Orleans has many clinicians who practice person or client-centered individual therapy in-person and through online sessions to assist clients in their healing journey. If you opt into online therapy, you might also be able to meet with providers all over the United States and change therapists easily at any time. Many people struggling with anxiety and depression, substance abuse, body image issues, and more find therapists that are a good fit for them, feel supported, and gain further insight into their lives through internet-based therapy.
Do therapists judge you in therapy sessions during telehealth appointments?
The boundaries between you and a therapist are in place to help you and them regarding ethical concerns. Mental health professionals are held by ethical standards through the American Psychological Association (APA) and are not allowed to judge or harm their clients. If you are concerned about sharing details about yourself, feel free to withhold personal information. Their job in the therapeutic relationship is to create a safe place, help you gain a deeper understanding of your mental health, and support you. You might consider changing counselors if you don't feel safe or respected.
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Take some time today to learn more about the team of New Orleans therapists at BetterHelp to understand the services available to you clearly. If you are new to therapy or have any questions about the services and terms, please reach out to customer service through the contact page or send an email to contact@betterhelp.com.
If you’re ready to sign up for online therapy, consider signing up with a platform like BetterHelp and get matched within 24 to 48 hours.
If you are experiencing a crisis or emergency, don't use this site's online services. If you are in life-threatening danger, call 911. If you require support for a crisis, reach out to the hotlines below:
- National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)
- National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)
- Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741
- Veterans Crisis Line: Call 1-800-273-8255 (and press 1) or text 838255. For support for the deaf and hard of hearing community, please use your preferred relay service or dial 711 then 1-800-273-8255.
- Trevor Lifeline (LGBTQ Lifeline): (866)488-7386
- SAMHSA National Helpline (Substance Use): (800)662-4357
- National Eating Disorder Association Helpline:1-800-931-2237 (M-Th: 9 AM-9 PM EST, Fri 9 AM - 5 PM EST)
- Child Help Hotline: Call 1-800-422-4453 or use the online chat feature
- National Anti-Hazing Hotline for young adults, adolescents, and adults: 1-888-NOT-HAZE (1-888-668-4293)
- Physician Crisis Support Line: Contact 1-888-409-0141 if you are a first responder or medical provider experiencing crises related to Covid-19
- Sexual Assault Hotline: Call RAINN at 1-800-656-4673
Below are some of the zip codes served by BetterHelp therapists in New Orleans:
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