Russell MacKay
Hi, I'm Russ and I am a licensed clinical mental health counselor and an EMDR practitioner. Some of my specialties include: strengthening relationships, assisting clients through difficult life transitions, supporting adolescents and working with those suffering from anxiety, parenting issues and PTSD. Some of my valuable experience includes working as a clinician with teen girls and boys in a residential setting focusing on trauma related disorders, attachment, self mutilation/cutting, sexual identity and the LGBTQ community. I have over 19 years of experience in the field. I acquired my BS in psychology from BYU and my MA in Counseling Psychology from National University of Phoenix. I am currently pursuing a Doctorate in counselor education and supervision. My counseling style is warm and interactive. I believe in treating anyone with respect, sensitivity, and compassion, and I don't believe in stigmatizing labels. My approach combines Solution Focused, Person Centered and CBT counseling with Mindfulness techniques. I will tailor our dialog and treatment plan to meet your unique and specific needs. It takes courage to seek a more fulfilling and happier life and to take the first steps towards a change. If you are ready to take that step I am here to support and empower you. You are welcome to message me anytime through Better Help. I usually check messages 1-2 times a day, 5 days per week. I offer messaging, live chat and phone sessions with limited availability in the evenings and weekends. Please note that what you see in my calendar may not reflect my only availability so you always want to check that out with me through messaging first. I look forward to working with you. I look forward to working with you!
Carol Gross
Hi, I look forward to meeting you. I truly believe all people are amazing and I’ve focused my life work towards psychology, human behavior and data analysis. I have more than 20 years of experience serving people who struggle with anxiety, depression, mood disorders, addiction, turama, anger management, ADHD, OCD, ASD, grief, hospice, and many other mental and behavioral problems. I am not new to living and learning or growing. I am familiar with pain.....although I know I dislike pain , in fact I often declare that “I’m allergic to pain because I know I don’t like it “, however I have learned that it is through pain I’ve actually gained the most happiness and peace. I am a professional with dual licenses.....a licensed clinical social worker and a licensed behavior analyst ......who started out professionally as a computer system analyst. Because of my own pain, experiences and education I’ve become more and more into Acceptance and Commitment (ACT) therapy a fairly recent Cognitive Behavioral Approach......it’s something I’ve found has severed me well and has been the most useful to others I’ve been blessed to engage with on our journey here. When we are able to notice our own discomfort we are more motivated to make effective and meaningful changes in our behaviors that will lead us to a more meaningful and joyful life. Growing pains are part of the process but can lead us to growth and the ability to identify and focus on what we, our own self knows is true for us.....what we value (self as context). My goal is to help you recognize what your pain is trying to tell you, discover what strategies can help you live through that pain....anxiety, depression....by increasing your behaviors of copping......mindfulness, focus ........ that will serve you and increase your psychological flexibility. I will often use the ACT Matrix to help “sort “ things out as a tool on our journey together. I would be delighted to take this journey with you and I look forward to meeting you and learning more about what you would like to achieve.
Clark Hammond
My name is Clark Hammond, and I am a Marriage & Family Therapist (MFT) licensed in the state of Utah. I earned a master’s degree in Marriage & Family Therapy from Brigham Young University, and a non-clinical doctorate degree from Oregon State University (Human Development & Family Studies, with an emphasis on Family Enterprise). I have been fortunate over my 20+ year career to work with hundreds of clients in a variety of settings. My MFT background helps me better understand the larger context when working with individuals. From private practice, residential treatment, young adult transition programs, to wilderness therapy, I have witnessed countless victories that come from rising above challenges and experiencing the growth and fulfillment we all hope for. I have also taught for nearly 8 years as a core faculty member in a graduate program training Clinicial Mental Health Counselors. I continue in my private work, but I want to do more. In today’s world, technology provides meaningful opportunities to access a variety of services – more important now than ever before. I am very client-centered in my approach, and see therapy as a truly collaborative process. In addition to the clinical approaches listed below, I glean from the fields of Positive Psychology and systems theory in this work. As “fellow travelers” along this journey of life, we all need support along the way. It’s an honor for me to share the road.
Ryan Garza
I am a licensed clinical social worker with over 14 years of experience working as a therapist in personal, couple, family, and group settings. I have worked with clients with a wide range of concerns including depression, anxiety, stress, trauma, abuse, grief, addiction, PTSD, personality disorders, toxic personalities. co-occurring disorders, codependency, and veterans issues. My approach is client-centered (based on your needs and wants), compassionate, encouraging, and respectful (some appropriate humor may slip in occasionally). My approach draws on modalities of cognitive behavioral therapy, solution focused, motivational, dialectical behavioral therapy, and acceptance and commitment therapy. Your treatment will be unique to you based on our joint treatment planning, your preferences, and your goals for treatment. Life is dynamic, exciting, and often unpredictable. It can also be challenging, complex, and at times overwhelming. Your choice to invest in yourself shows a willingness to take more control of your life. With treatment, your ability to address issues of the past, manage the demands of the present, and prepare for the future will increase. Peace of mind, clarity, and purpose can and will improve. I look forward to working with you in this undertaking.
Mindy McDonald
Hi. Thank you for taking the time to read my profile. I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker in the states of Texas, Utah, Washington, Oregon, Colorado and Arizona. I am also pending in Tennessee and New Mexico. I am a NBCCH (National Board Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist and I am also a Certified Advanced Grief Counseling Specialist (CAGCS). Navigating life can be hard. There is no manual, and many of us did not grow up with good models or examples we want to emulate. Some of us are seeking tools and resources to evolve and grow beyond our current limits, others need a sounding board or someone who believes in us and can cheer us on. Regardless of your need, my goal is to help. As human beings, we all find that we need other perspectives, support, ideas and ways of being, at various points in our lives. I would love to be that for you. I have worked with individuals and groups for over 20 years, both in a clinical setting as well as in a crisis intervention capacity. I have witnessed and assisted people from essentially birth to death with all things related to being human and all the beauty and complexities that come with that. My one desire as a therapist, is to always leave people better than I found them. I will meet you where you are with sensitivity, warmth and compassion, and we will walk this healing path together at a pace that is set by you. I believe establishing a strong rapport with mutual respect is key in achieving lasting change. I believe the way in which we have experienced life dictates how we choose to live each day and the quality of our relationships, influences how we cope with stress, sadness and even joy that life inevitably brings. I use a combination of therapy to help clients identify problematic or distressing patterns or behavior, reflect on how their experiences in life have shaped these patterns and encourage clients to discuss possible solutions. I combine many therapeutic modalities to develop your treatment plan by using a strengths-based approach to empower goals tailored to your needs and areas of concern. No two of us are alike and we all experience life differently. Therefore, the approach to healing must also be flexible. My goal is to establish a connection, whereby both you and I will partner, addressing that each person is an individual and worthy of a safe space to heal and be present in their goals as an evolving human being. I believe that prioritizing one's mental health is an investment in self, and is an active step towards your healing journey. I acknowledge the courage it takes to seek a more fulfilling and happier life and commend you for your choice in reaching for that goal. I look forward to working together. *once a session has been scheduled, I will message you to touch base and confirm. If you do not see a day or time available that suits your needs, please reach out to me via the therapy room message option and we will work together to schedule a mutually agreed upon session.*
Lisa Dorfman
A Licensed Therapist and Nutritionist/ Registered Dietitian in Florida & Utah with 38 years of professional work experience, my expertise is in helping professional and "life" athletes optimize performance for sports, personal growth, career, relationships and life. My approach is holistic, using a variety of tools--EMDR, CBT, DBT, mindfulness, breathing, Nutrition Therapy and Reiki practice to work through anxiety, stress, trauma, overtraining syndrome, energy and injury issues; building motivation, self esteem, and confidence. Taking the first steps takes courage and strength. I believe that each one of us has the possibility to take steps towards optimal health wherever one is on this journey. My role is to help you draw on your strengths to help you overcome the hurdles holding you back from achieving your personal best. I am here to support & empower you in that journey.
Billi Rigby
As a licensed mental health professional in Colorado, Oklahoma and Utah with five years of experience, I have helped numerous clients with various issues. My areas of focus include stress and anxiety management, improving motivation, self-esteem and confidence, addressing career difficulties, and treating depression. A particular passion of mine is assisting those experiencing caregiver stress or burnout. I work hard to create a space where you feel comfortable opening up without any fear of judgment. Taking that first step to sign up for therapy is no small thing - it takes real courage. But you've done it! I'm so proud of you for taking action to improve your well-being. Together, we'll build an environment of trust and care. You'll be able to share your deepest thoughts and feelings while knowing you have my full support. With my experience and your dedication to growth, we can make real progress. Your happiness and health are within reach - let's get started on your journey to feeling better! Don't hesitate to reach out, I'm here for you!
Jennifer Philips
I am licensed in California with 8 years of professional work experience. I have experience in helping clients with stress and anxiety, family conflicts, coping with grief and loss, & parenting issues. I believe that you are the expert of your story and that you have many strengths that will assist you in overcoming things that challenge you. It takes courage to seek out a more fulfilling and happier life and to take the first steps towards a change. I am here to support & empower you in that journey.
Lynne Klaus
Hi! I am glad you are here! My name is Lynne and I am a licensed clinical social worker. I have worked in the mental health field for over 20 years. My experience has included working with a vast array of people challenged by life situations and experiencing anxiety, depression, problems with substance abuse, trauma, grief and loss just to name a few. It is my belief that if suffering and uncertainty are inherent in our humanness, so too is joy, growth and the ability to heal through connectedness. People often seek therapy having exhausted their own internal resources trying to feel better. They may also believe they have exhausted their loved ones with their own self-doubt, sadness or shame. Or one may be experiencing a more vague yet persistent sense of being overwhelmed or numb and disconnected. If anxiety, sadness, irritability, anger or grief is impacting your quality of life; or, if you have been managing uncomfortable emotions with substances and questioning your relationship with alcohol or drugs, I’d like to help. I offer my clients the opportunity to explore who they are, who they want to be, and importantly, a partnership in forging the path toward healing and change.
Shiloe Mecham
I am licensed in Utah with 5 years of formal professional counseling experience. I have spent most of that time helping clients with trauma and abuse, life skills acquisition, productivity problems, self esteem and confidence, coping with life changes & executive and professional coaching. Together, we work to transform pain, shame and self-doubt into courage, competence, and self-love so you can live more the kind of life you want to live. Taking the first step to sign up for therapy is important and I am proud of you for getting started!
How to find a therapist for counseling in Daniel
Finding the best therapist close by in Daniel can feel challenging, but know that once you narrow your search for a counselor serving your area, you can find a therapist in your city that is accepting new clients and fits your goals. Whether you're struggling with depression, anxiety, marriage, family issues, or other emotional challenges, feel proud that you have begun your search to find the mental health care services with therapists in Daniel that work best for you in order to begin your personal journey towards emotional healing with a therapist.
Understanding the type of therapy you'd like to search for is crucial before finding a therapist or psychologist in Daniel. Perhaps you're interested in narrowing your search for a psychotherapist that can offer psychodynamic, cognitive-behavioral (CBT), talk therapy, provide group therapy, marriage and family therapy for individuals or couples, or couples therapy. Each type of support of this kind with BetterHelp therapists can offer various benefits and address or treat different disorders. If you're still unsure or are new to counseling in Daniel, feel free to contact the provider via email to find out which methods they practice.
It is also important to understand that mental health professionals in the United States are accredited to provide care, helping individuals and couples, with a variety of licenses for therapists. These include licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT), licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), and clinical psychologist or doctor of psychology (PsyD). Regardless of their licensure, they are trained able to treat individuals and couples counseling, and sometimes children, in any type of therapy in the Daniel region and in the state of Utah. Find a therapist under any of these distinctions and know that the sessions they offer can provide a safe place to heal.
A mental health counselor working through their own in-person therapy practice in Daniel or online may assist clients in improving healthy relationships, communication skills, working through life transitions, couples counseling, managing a mood disorder, improving coping skills, self help tips, offer life coaching, family therapy, or change in negative thinking patterns. A Daniel therapist may also provide a safe place and validation for clients experiencing emotional pain, or that simply want a psychological assessment. Verified providers and therapists can provide licensed marriage and couples therapy, tailor to individual needs, and create a therapeutic relationship as a National Certified Counselor.
There are all kinds of therapists working with clients today across the United States and in the greater Daniel area offering:
- CBT
- DBT
- Substance use therapy
- Couples therapy
When you're ready to start your search keep in mind what support you'd like your provider to be most experienced with and choose an experienced provider with a practice located near you in the city of Daniel, elsewhere in Wasatch, or in the greater state of Utah. Get matched with one of the therapists working on the BetterHelp platform today.
Frequently asked questions (FAQs) about therapists and mental health services
Some other commonly asked questions on therapy with a licensed counselor and BetterHelp serving the Daniel area can be found below:
How does the cost of in-person counseling with a therapist compare to the cost of BetterHelp with a licensed Daniel therapist?
The average price of an in-person therapy session in the US with most therapists is $100 to $200 per hour. These prices may be higher in Daniel due to a higher cost of living, and a limited number of therapists taking new clients. The price also depends on the type of provider you are looking for. See the following average prices for various mental health providers without insurance:
- Counseling with a psychiatrist: $150-$500
- Counseling with therapists: $100-300
- Therapy with a psychologist: $100
While many psychologists in Daniel may not take health insurance, some in the state of Utah may work on a sliding scale, meaning they'll factor in your income and charge what you can afford per session. With a BetterHelp therapist throughout the state of Utah you can expect significantly more affordable options, with therapists sessions ranging from $65 to $100 per week (billed every four weeks).
How is a licensed therapist on this Daniel online therapy platform verified?
Therapists in Daniel, Utah working on BetterHelp are licensed, trained, experienced, and accredited as a doctor of psychology (PhD / PsyD), licensed marriage and family therapists (LMFT), licensed clinical social worker (LCSW / LICSW), or licensed professional counselors (LPC). All of these psychology clinicians have a Masters Degree or a Doctorate Degree in their field of psychology sciences, and follow the APA Code of Ethics. Therapists have been qualified and certified by their state's professional board after successfully completing the necessary education, exams, training and practice with a patient, and extensive experience in a healthcare clinic or treatment centers, in order to become a mental health provider. While their lived experience, expertise, careers, and background vary, therapists here all possess at least 3 years and 1,000 hours of hands-on experience with adult and sometimes teen patients, and have the necessary therapist credentials to provide a safe space for long lasting emotional healing in therapy.
Please note BetterHelp does not offer or provide care from Daniel psychiatrists to prescribe a drug or medication as treatment, or perform psychological assessments and other psychiatric services.
How does working with a professional counselor in BetterHelp online therapy sessions work?
BetterHelp clinicians and therapists treat clients online across the United States (individuals and couples) through life transitions, inner child exploration, long term depression or anxiety, post traumatic stress disorder, and more. An online mental health professional, including the therapists in Daniel above, can work with young adults, children, adolescents, and adults virtually as an accredited licensed clinical social worker (LCSW) or licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT). You do not have to commute to a an office as a psychotherapy client.
Through BetterHelp therapy, you can partake in video, phone, or live chat therapy sessions with your licensed therapist. You can work through various symptoms, use the in app journaling feature, and receive worksheets. You'll also find support groups or group therapy helping individuals on topics including managing life transitions, symptoms affecting sexual health, behavioral health, coping skills for anxiety, depression, trauma, stress, marriage counseling, and more. Get matched today.
What mental health issues can psychotherapy address with the help of psychologists?
BetterHelp's verified therapists specialize and have clinical experience in a wide range of mental health issues and modalities, helping clients to feel better and improve their lives every day. See below for examples.
Our therapists specialties on BetterHelp include:
- Cognitive behavioral therapy - This is provided by professional counselors, helping clients identify and change negative thought patterns through structured sessions.
- Behavior therapy - Behavior therapy techniques are used to help clients modify harmful behaviors and develop healthier habits, often through the guidance of a professional counselor.
- EMDR therapy - EMDR therapists assist clients in processing traumatic memories to alleviate emotional distress and improve overall well-being, utilizing the expertise of a professional counselor.
- Talk therapy - Clients explore their feelings and develop strategies for dealing with various mental health issues, often guided by a professional counselor.
- Depression - This counseling is designed to help individuals manage symptoms of depression and improve their mood and functioning, often working closely with a professional counselor.
- Anxiety disorders - Sessions for anxiety disorders, offer strategies to manage and reduce anxiety symptoms effectively, often through counseling sessions with a professional counselor.
- Stress - Tools and techniques to help clients cope with stress and improve their mental resilience, frequently under the supervision of a professional counselor.
- Eating disorders - Professionals experienced in eating disorders offer specialized counseling to address unhealthy eating patterns and body image issues, with the support of a professional counselor.
- Grief - Support and guidance are offered to clients experiencing grief, helping them navigate the stages of loss, often in collaboration with a counselor.
- Attachment therapy - Therapists use this to help clients understand and improve their emotional bonds and relationships, often with the assistance of a counselor.
- Relationships - Therapists work with clients to improve communication, resolve conflicts, and strengthen their connections with others, often using the skills of a counselor.
- Children, adolescents, and teens - Therapists specializing in youth therapy address the unique mental health needs of children, adolescents, and teens, often involving a counselor in the process.
- Addiction (substance abuse) - Therapists offer counseling for addiction, helping clients overcome substance abuse and maintain long-term recovery, often under the guidance of a counselor.
- Divorce - Therapists support individuals through the emotional and practical challenges of ending a marriage, often working with a psychologist to provide comprehensive care.
- Trauma or PTSD - Therapists specializing in trauma and PTSD help clients process traumatic experiences and reduce their symptoms, frequently collaborating with a psychologist.
- Bipolar disorder - Therapists provide counseling to manage the mood swings and challenges associated with bipolar disorder, often in consultation with a psychologist.
- Psychodynamic treatment - Therapists use psychodynamic treatment to explore unconscious processes and how they affect current behavior, often guided by psychologists.
- Career counseling - Therapists assist clients in making informed decisions about their professional paths and resolving work-related issues, often with the help of psychologists.
- Alcohol use disorders - Therapists offer specialized counseling to help clients manage and overcome alcohol use disorders, frequently under the supervision of psychologists.
- OCD - Therapists provide strategies and support to manage obsessive-compulsive disorder symptoms, often via psychotherapy.
- ADHD - Therapists offer counseling to help clients with ADHD improve focus, organization, and overall functioning, often via psychotherapy.
- Mood disorders - Therapists work with clients to stabilize and improve mood through various therapeutic approaches, frequently in psychotherapy.
- Sex addiction
- Complex trauma
- Life transitions
You may also be struggling with relationship problems that could be addressed in couples therapy or with a sex therapist. In that case, you may choose to work with one of BetterHelp's experienced cognitive-behavioral therapists or licensed marriage family therapists (LMFT) who work with clients in relationships. You can also try a Daniel provider through BetterHelp's sister platform, ReGain, which is dedicated to couples and spouses worldwide with licensed therapists.
How do I know if online counseling is right for my family in Daniel?
One of the potentially rewarding aspects of working with a Daniel therapist is the validation and active listening they can provide. Your friends and loved ones may also be available to listen, but you may feel that they may lack the skills to provide objective guidance. Counselors and therapists are trained to respond to various concerns, symptoms, and mental health conditions.
Therapists in your city can support you toward a healthier emotional state, regardless of your mental health, life concerns, or healing needs. While supporting individuals in developing healthier habits, another good benefit of Daniel therapy is having an understanding, safe space with a non-judgmental party who can support you through challenging experiences.
Many people have sensitive topics that they may feel ashamed to discuss with their friends or partner. A Daniel therapist can help you confront these concerns and open up through unique methods of support. There are also many types of therapy, such as art therapy, where you may find you can express yourself through creativity instead of words with a psychotherapist.
With a lot of people in UT, therapists may be booked out with clients. Through the list of profiles or therapists above and others within BetterHelp's team, you may be able to find a psychologist within 24 to 48 hours. If you're searching to find a a nearby psychotherapist close to 84032 or the surrounding zip codes, consider others available through the BetterHelp site where you can schedule a session based on your and the therapist's schedule. No matter if you are seeking help from therapists in your area or beyond, online therapy can be a great option.
How should I prepare for my first therapy session with a Daniel counselor?
Before seeing your Daniel therapist, prep for your session by reading to understand the process. You might write a list of questions you want to ask your psychotherapist, any emotional pain you may feel, and the ways in which you hope to improve. When you attend your session, you can let our therapists know if you have any concerns or feel unsure about what to talk about. Daniel therapists here may help guide you with open-ended therapeutic questions while offering mental health services. The first session will often serve as an intake to get to know you as a person and learn why you're attending therapy.
Should I find a therapist or psychologist for therapy if I feel fine?
Some simply don't feel the need to see a psychologist. However, some people may avoid attending therapy due to stigma or preconceived notions of what it might entail. Although psychologists often support people with mental health conditions, you do not need a diagnosis or specific condition. You can discuss grief, relationship concerns, stress, or life changes and ask for general feedback. A Daniel licensed clinical social worker may help you gain power over your life and emotions while you navigate day-to-day experiences.
Gaining a new perspective on yourself through various therapies might allow you to improve your self-esteem, work through relationships, and gain a better sense of your mental health goals. The success you may find with a Daniel counselor can be dependent on your process.
People may also attend therapy for specific motives, such as bullying, an autism diagnosis, a desire to learn mindfulness meditation, personality concerns, trouble with office workers, specific phobias, and many other principles that a counselor can help with.
Is mental health care and therapy with a therapist worth it?
Therapy with a licensed counselor is effective and has the power to change individuals' lives. Each client is at a different stage of their emotional healing journey in life, as each human can be unique in their personality, expression, skills, and goals. A psychologist can target various symptoms, experiences, and personalities to help you feel your best and put you on the path to healing. Unlike advice from a friend, family, or non-professional, a mental health therapist has an understanding of various disorders like ADHD and depression with many hours of experience in treating adults in their practice. For this reason, seeing an evidence based psychologist in Daniel, Utah can be worth it. Over 41 million adults in the US attend therapy services each year, showing it's a popular option and is proven to be effective.
Daniel has many clinicians who practice person or client-centered individual therapy in-person and through online sessions to assist clients in their healing journey. If you opt into online therapy, you might also be able to meet with providers all over the United States and change therapists easily at any time. Many people struggling with anxiety and depression, substance abuse, body image issues, and more find therapists that are a good fit for them, feel supported, and gain further insight into their lives through internet-based therapy.
Do therapists judge you in therapy sessions during telehealth appointments?
The boundaries between you and a therapist are in place to help you and them regarding ethical concerns. Mental health professionals are held by ethical standards through the American Psychological Association (APA) and are not allowed to judge or harm their clients. If you are concerned about sharing details about yourself, feel free to withhold personal information. Their job in the therapeutic relationship is to create a safe place, help you gain a deeper understanding of your mental health, and support you. You might consider changing counselors if you don't feel safe or respected.
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Take some time today to learn more about the team of Daniel therapists at BetterHelp to understand the services available to you clearly. If you are new to therapy or have any questions about the services and terms, please reach out to customer service through the contact page or send an email to contact@betterhelp.com.
If you’re ready to sign up for online therapy, consider signing up with a platform like BetterHelp and get matched within 24 to 48 hours.
If you are experiencing a crisis or emergency, don't use this site's online services. If you are in life-threatening danger, call 911. If you require support for a crisis, reach out to the hotlines below:
- National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233)
- National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)
- Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741
- Veterans Crisis Line: Call 1-800-273-8255 (and press 1) or text 838255. For support for the deaf and hard of hearing community, please use your preferred relay service or dial 711 then 1-800-273-8255.
- Trevor Lifeline (LGBTQ Lifeline): (866)488-7386
- SAMHSA National Helpline (Substance Use): (800)662-4357
- National Eating Disorder Association Helpline:1-800-931-2237 (M-Th: 9 AM-9 PM EST, Fri 9 AM - 5 PM EST)
- Child Help Hotline: Call 1-800-422-4453 or use the online chat feature
- National Anti-Hazing Hotline for young adults, adolescents, and adults: 1-888-NOT-HAZE (1-888-668-4293)
- Physician Crisis Support Line: Contact 1-888-409-0141 if you are a first responder or medical provider experiencing crises related to Covid-19
- Sexual Assault Hotline: Call RAINN at 1-800-656-4673
Below are some of the zip codes served by BetterHelp therapists in Daniel:
84032